About two months ago, a close friend and fellow blogger left her home in the United States to visit us in Canada. And while it was great to see her, it was also somewhat upsetting, because she’d set out on the trip with her husband, but she arrived alone. He’d been detained at one of those places where the two countries meet, and after several hours of relentless questioning, was turned back and forced to spend the week with relatives in Maine. At her husband’s urging, she made the rest of the journey by herself.
His rejection was the result of a routine criminal background check that turned up an incident from his past. They were both taken by surprise.
I was stunned.
I knew this man, or thought I did. I believed him to be a good person, a law-abiding citizen, a guy who loved his children and was generous to his friends. Hadn’t he stood by his wife when she was diagnosed with a serious disease? Wasn’t he the one who remained at her side through difficult medical treatments, and who worked hard to raise money for a related charity? Didn’t he welcome my family into his home several years ago, when we were total strangers, cooking us a gourmet meal and presenting us with gifts?
How could we have been so foolish, and so blind? I had no idea who this man was on the inside, beneath all that superficial niceness, or what he was capable of doing. It took the trained eyes and ears of those Canadian border officers to pluck this guy out of the line of cars and send him back where he belonged.
In truth, even if I’d been handed the police record, I might have overlooked the facts. The crime, after all, involved not much more than the breaking of a window. He’d been charged with a misdemeanor. There was no trial and he served no time in jail. Yet the vague details were recorded and preserved, and have been following him around all this time, like a ninja: invisible and silent.
The charge was breaking and entering. It sounds ominous, until you realize that it happened when he was eighteen years old. He’s now sixty-three. This window had been shattered nearly a half-century ago, and I suspect it was part of a building that no longer exists. Since then, my friend hadn’t committed a single crime, and had been a caring and responsible citizen who worked hard and paid his bills.
Fortunately, the scrupulous people at the Canada Border Services Agency could see right through all of that. Further, they knew that not only did this man deserve to be banished from the country, but that he also needed to be interrogated, treated with humiliating disdain, and called, among other things, a liar. And why not? Why didn’t his wicked act leap to mind immediately when he was asked about his criminal past? Are we supposed to feel comfortable in the company of such a person, just because his mistake was forty-five years ago, made at a time in life when most of us do some of the dumbest things we can imagine?
Sometimes those dumb things can spill over into insanity. For example, in September 2005, Gregory Allen Despres walked up to the United States border from St. Stephen, New Brunswick – the very same point of entry our friends had found so impenetrable, although in the opposite direction. Despres was twenty-three at the time, an American citizen living in Canada. He was wearing a bullet-proof vest, and claimed he was a government assassin who’d killed more than seven hundred people. He was also carrying a hatchet, a handmade sword, a number of knives, a can of pepper spray, and a chainsaw that appeared to be stained with red droplets the color of blood. Officials took the weapons from Despres, then let him into the country. He was arrested some time later in Massachusetts when it was discovered that he’d failed to show up in court for a sentencing hearing on an assault charge.
The grandfather of the man Despres assaulted was 74-year-old Fred Fulton, who in April had been murdered in his kitchen, along with his common-law wife, Veronica Decarie. Veronica had been stabbed repeatedly with a knife. Fred had been decapitated, probably with a chainsaw.
Despres was found guilty of the murders, but deemed by the judge to be mentally ill and not criminally responsible for his actions. He was sent to a psychiatric healing center in New Brunswick, not far from where Fred and Veronica once lived. During his trial, prosecutors explained that Despres had entered the victims’ home by slicing through a screen and then kicking in the door. Then he butchered the couple, drenching the house with their blood, and placing Fred’s severed head inside a pillowcase.
On the bright side, he didn’t break any windows. And for that, we can all sleep a little better tonight.
Carol Deminski
October 10, 2013
Wait … what?! You live in Canada, and not the NYC metro area? You may need to change your name from “Bronxboy” Charles, that’s a little misleading. I mean I know the Bronx is to the north of Manhattan, but it’s not THAT far north!
Well, at least you have joined the country that has the reputation of being one of the most polite in the world (even your ax-murderers aren’t really from there…) 🙂
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bronxboy55
October 10, 2013
Sorry for misleading you, Carol. Now I’ll probably be deported.
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Carol Deminski
October 10, 2013
Wow, live and learn. 🙂
If you get deported, don’t worry, you can still claim your Bronx citizenship, although it will take you at least a decade for the locals to consider you local again. 😉
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Chichina
October 10, 2013
Why does this not surprise me? Nothing surprises me any more and that is a frightening social commentary.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
What worries me is that there seems to be a robotic approach to the whole process, while the real troublemakers continue to exhibit flexibility and creativity. The wrong people are doing most of the thinking. Do you remember the elderly man who was arrested at Charlottetown Airport shortly after September 11?
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Chichina
October 11, 2013
I’ve given up trying to make sense of this world of ours. I’m currently reading ” Shake Hands with the Devil” which has pretty much destroyed any vestige of hope that humankind is redeemable.
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silkpurseproductions
October 10, 2013
As you know, Charles, this is something we have had to deal with on some level most of our lives. It is sometimes outrageous the paradoxical behaviour by the border attendants. Your friend would be in a particularly awkward spot because he was not convicted. If he was convicted he could apply for a pardon. If they refused him entry simply for being charged that is crazy. A couple of years ago a similar thing happened to a man I was working with. He was coming to Canada from Atlanta to provide some training for me. This was a trip he had done many times over the years. This time someone noticed a charge from many years ago on his record and he was refused entry and kept in holding at Pearson International Airport until they put him back on a plane to the US. He lost job and was now red flagged for any kind of travel out of his country.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
A similar thing happened to our friend, Michelle. He’d been to Canada several times over the past couple of decades, so he had no reason to think this infraction from his teens was even an issue. When he didn’t mention it, the customs official accused him of lying to her. Your colleague’s experience was even worse. I hope he finds a way to clear it up.
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icedteawithlemon
October 10, 2013
Common sense very rarely has a place in governmental agencies. An interesting read, but what a terrible experience for your friends … and now I’m left wondering if a similar fate will befall me if I ever attempt to cross that border (given that I have a long list of paid speeding tickets dating all the way back to when I was 18, too). I guess it’s safer to stay put in the Ozarks with all my criminal friends (some of whom have written in the margins of textbooks, failed to return shopping carts to their bins, and cut in line at the movie theater–but please don’t tell anyone).
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bronxboy55
October 10, 2013
I won’t tell, Karen. I promise.
You’re happy today, aren’t you?
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icedteawithlemon
October 10, 2013
If you’re questioning whether last night’s Cardinals’ win might have affected my emotional status today, then I can assure you that it most certainly did. I am happy today, and I hope to be even happier in the days and weeks to come …
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JSD
October 10, 2013
I’ve always had a huge fondness for Canada, as that’s where my family is from and where my heart is now. However, I do not understand your criminal system where criminals are treated so politely, and the victims’ rights don’t seem to be taken into consideration. But, I guess living in the U.S. I’m a little hardened to it all. Geez, I better watch my Ps and Qs so they won’t ban me from coming on over. And I totally agree with “icedteawithlemon”…common sense very rarely has a place in governmental agencies.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
I try to avoid making general statements, JSD, because many of the people working in those positions are reasonable, polite, and even friendly. Unfortunately, it takes only one who’s rude or power-crazed to ruin your day, your vacation, or even your life.
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Patti Kuche
October 10, 2013
Almost as though you have discovered the geographical border of Purgatory!
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
Yes, but I’m not sure my friend is thinking of Canada as heaven right now.
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Betty Londergan
October 10, 2013
Wow, don’t even get me started on the penal system (and its aftermath) here in the USA, and now, obviously in Canada too. When my daughter worked for the Georgia Justice Project (an oxymoron to be sure) she spent most of her time doing “expungements” — clearing people’s records of arrest notations, because even if you were never found guilty of the alleged crime, your arrest record would remain and taint your reputation, particularly now with “e-verify” and all the other internet tracking systems that promise to identify real criminals. Like your friend. Unfortunately, the poorer you are, the less justice you are going to get — and young kids (like your friend was at the time of his incident) are very unlikely to know what to do or how to get out from under the blight of a criminal record! GREAT post, Charles — but the Depres ending was awfully scary!!
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
What I can’t understand is how this insignificant incident, which happened long before computers were in common use, managed to stay in the records. We hear all the time about major criminal cases in which important evidence has been lost, or was thrown away. What made this information worth keeping? And why are we so inept at knowing the difference between the highly probable and the slightly possible? Was it really so difficult to look at this man and realize he’s not a threat to anyone?
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Hippie Cahier
October 10, 2013
Well, to be fair, if he were to revert to his criminal ways, a broken window in Canada would mean an increase in energy usage, so essentially, this was sound and responsible environmental policy.
No?
That was the best rationale I could come up with.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
It’s funny that you mentioned energy usage, Hippie. One of my initial reactions to my friends’ story was a sense of disbelief that the government would waste so much time and energy dealing with something so trivial. If only he’d been carrying some power tools.
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Mikels Skele
October 10, 2013
How did they ever uncover this charge in the first place?
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
I have no idea, Mikels. The incident took place in 1968. Were they even using electric typewriters then?
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Mikels Skele
October 11, 2013
Weird. There’s got to be a story there somewhere.
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thelocusteater
October 10, 2013
Reblogged this on Locust Eater.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
Thank you. I appreciate it.
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thelocusteater
October 11, 2013
Of course!
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cat
October 10, 2013
… omg … I got drunk once on a cymbal full of wine …. now what ?
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
I don’t know, but I wouldn’t leave the house if I were you.
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gleaningthenuggets
October 10, 2013
Growing up in Saudi Arabia, where they will cut off your hand if you steal something, gave me a healthy wariness of government justice at a young age. Best to stay out of their way 🙂
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
One of the common elements I’m getting from the comments is that it’s almost always the poor and powerless who are under the government’s thumb — the very people who pose the smallest threat. The prime minister of Canada would fall all over himself if the leader of China would pay us a visit. China, a country that routinely executes people who are merely suspected of committing a crime.
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gleaningthenuggets
October 11, 2013
Yep. Power can be very corrupting.
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charlywalker
October 10, 2013
I recently went out to Seattle for a wedding held on San Juan Island, WA. In the Ferry waiting area is a giant sign stating: “If you are entering Canada and have a DUI you will not be able to enter”. No other crime was mentioned. Made me wonder; What if you had a DUI and it was expunged, can the Mounties still hold to their law?
Personally, I think it a bit harsh on your friend for a misdemeanor over 40 yrs ago.
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bronxboy55
October 11, 2013
I don’t know, CW. Is anything really expunged? And why are they focused on DUI? It implies that if you were convicted of robbing a bank, you’d be allowed in, as long as you were sober when you drove the getaway car.
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charlywalker
November 1, 2013
Ooooh Canada!
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Sandra Parsons
October 10, 2013
Another typical case of abuse of power. Why did you refuse this man to enter, officer? Because I COULD! If it’s any consolation, this kind of stuff can happen anywhere in the world – unfortunately.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
The truly frustrating part is that if they had gone to another of the border crossings in that area, or had arrived a few hours later or earlier, they might have both gotten in with no problem. The process is bewildering. Is it the same in Europe?
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Sandra Parsons
October 13, 2013
I agree, totally random. I had the nicest experiences entering the US when I, coming from Mexico, greeted the immigrations officer in Spanish and he struck up a lovely conversation because he had a Latin American background, whereas I was scrutinised in the most unpleasant way another time because I had been to Egypt on diving holidays three times in the previous years.
Europe these days really is like travelling within the US. On the roads there are merely defunct checkpoints, and whizzing through airport immigrations is a breeze. I could not say what it’s like for Non-Europeans though, although it doesn’t look too bad to me.
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subodai213
October 10, 2013
I had something similar happen several years ago-in BOTH directions. My husband and I tried to enter Canada at the Okanagon (WA) entry point. The Canadians interrogated us, took our driver’s licenses, (and our military ID’s) and Xeroxed them. They took our pictures. Our truck was searched for the guns they INSISTED we were smuggling into the country. Both of us were frisked. They couldn’t find any reason to refuse us entry and so eventually allowed us into British Columbia.
On our way back…FIVE HOURS LATER-the US Border Patrol inspected our truck for drugs, frisked us, refused to believe we were US Army soldiers, tried to imply that we had forged our military ID’s and kept asking us what we had done in Canada, why had we gone there. Why? To eat dinner? That’s IT?
So we don’t go near the border any more. That’s okay. Don’t go to Vancouver, Canada, folks. Not only are they vociferously anti-American, but they don’t have sewage treatment plants, either, and have no intentions on building any. That’s right. They dump raw, untreated sewage right into Puget Sound. Hey, it all heads south, to the US. They don’t give a damn.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
And the thing is, even if all of their accusations prove unfounded, they can turn you away based solely on your reaction to their unfounded accusations. So, just as you must do at airport security, you have to keep your mouth shut and take it.
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subodai213
October 12, 2013
Yeah. Or, as they used to say in the Army: “Bohica”…meaning “Bend Over, Here It Comes Again”.
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morristownmemos by Ronnie Hammer
October 10, 2013
That poor man probably never thought anything or anyone would bring up his horrific past again in his lifetime. I’ve heard of people holding grudges, but the whole government taking this action against one poor guy is insufferable.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
I wonder what’s going to happen the next time I try to enter the United States. Are they going to bring up this blog post?
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susielindau
October 10, 2013
Wow. What a difference in countries! That is super scary.
In both cases, what were they thinking????
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
There’s no consistency at all, Susie. The situation could just as easily have happened in reverse.
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gliderpilotlee
October 10, 2013
Still to have the whistles go off entering or leaving Canada, maybe bad attitude is tolerable. Law enforcement: There are a few good ones. But the rest, what are they thinking?
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
I’m still wondering who managed to slip into the country while those customs officials wasted hours grilling two of the nicest people I know.
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Stacie Chadwick
October 10, 2013
I always pictured you in L.A., staring at the ocean as you banged out your posts. Now that I know you’re starting at, say, North Dakota, I’m kind of bummed. Sorry for your friend’s hassles too. =/
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
I’ve never seen North Dakota, Stacie. I’m actually much farther east, and just above Nova Scotia.
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shoreacres
October 11, 2013
Government doing what government does for no reason other than government can is at the root of the abominations going on in the US right now – using Park Service employees and rent-a-cops to keep people from Independence Hall in Philly, assorted war memorials and national parks.
I’m sorry for your friend’s experience, and I’m pondering it, as well. I’ll be taking off on a trip that was meant to include some natural wonders administered by the government. Funny, how packing needs change. I used to throw in hiking boots, books, binoculars, camera and plenty of high protein, high energy snacks. Now, I’m thinking I should add bolt cutters, wire cutters, and a thousand dollars in checking to make bail when they throw me in the slammer for “LOOKING AT A NATIONAL TREASURE”!!!
See how an out-of-control government has driven me to all caps and extra exclamation points? There’s probably a law against that, too.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
Make sure you’re not carrying too much cash, Linda. They don’t seem to like that, either.
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gliderpilotlee
October 14, 2013
What? Rent-a cops? are they like – small dose of training- small dose of common sense- unorganized – playing with new toys- bad timing? Might not be able to tell the difference–
Park land access: in a recent email to a friend: Do the 30+ people that live down that valley drive over the barricade every day? They own the land, it’s been in the family for years,but now it’s a park “also”–
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mariceljimenez
October 14, 2013
This is happening in Puerto Rico too! People being fined and threatened with arrest for going into the Yunque National Forrest, aka, a mountain, because of the Federal shutdown. Ugh!
About the border, in my experience authority figures who’s “job” is to keep the people “safe” don’t really follow any kind of logical reasoning. Someone gives them an endless rule book and then tells them to “trust your instincts”.
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lostnchina
October 11, 2013
The border patrol of both sides are terrible. The US thinks EVERYONE wants to enter and work in its country whose government is in a huge deadlock and can’t get its act together. In Canada, I was once taken to “a little room” and my luggage gone through. I was asked what was this large file I was carrying around with me (after the lady had rifled through the file and seen what everything was). It was all of my WORK and also contained info about my PIN #s for my personal and business bank accounts. I had not been a resident of Canada since the mid-1990s and return to Canada about once every two years. It seems to me that the agents detain people totally at random, and ask random questions. Most of the time I’m asked whether I have meat buns or beef jerky. (That is a borderline racist question, as I’m sure you’ll never be asked this in your lifetime, Charles.) Another border agent may have let your friend’s husband go through. Sorry things didn’t work out so well for you guys.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
I’m sorry you’ve had such demeaning experiences, Susan. It’s interesting, though — if you can manage to stand back and look at the situation objectively — to see what a little power does to some people, while others remain both friendly and professional. I’ve run into both extremes.
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justawesomewritings
October 11, 2013
Canada abolished the death penalty? Maybe I should apply for a citizenship.
NB: I always kinda knew you were writing from somewhere in Canada.
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
They say they’ve abolished it. But who knows? It may be a case-by-case thing.
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foodsnobwriter
October 11, 2013
Wow. Well, no one ever said life was fair. 24 years ago, my x-husband, a Canadian, was detained at the border as we were returning to the US after visiting his dad on his deathbed. His green card was pending, so that was enough to send him back to Canada for three months, leaving his pregnant wifey, me, to return to Florida alone…
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bronxboy55
October 12, 2013
I wonder how many families and relationships have been damaged by the whims of customs officials who are cranky because the doughnut shop messed up their coffee order.
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kasturika
October 11, 2013
Oh my! It seems shocking at first, but then when we look around, this is very very common… Here especially, big guys having big links get away with cold-blooded murder, but little people get thrown in jails for telling the truth… Sad. Very sad.
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
I think you just described the whole world, kasturika.
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Snoring Dog Studio
October 11, 2013
That’s just ridiculous. Those over-zealous border agents just robbed Canada and Pella Windows out of a ton of money. Cuz, you know, once you break one window, you’ve got that blood lust forever embedded in your soul.
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
And you’re never satisfied with just single-pane windows. Sooner or later, you’re going to move on to sliding doors, skylights, and even stained glass. You’re right, SDS: the Canadian economy just took another hit.
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Bill
October 11, 2013
Canada? Do you have a thread on this?
Interesting as I thought to get citizenship there a few times. But I’m still out of the States over 23 years now so am basically without a home.
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
By a thread, do you mean a blog post? If so, I’ve done a couple. Here’s one: https://mostlybrightideas.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/crossing-the-line/
Are you in Japan?
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Bill
October 18, 2013
Have not been in Japan since we left for Singapore in August 2004.
I will check that post.
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PinotNinja
October 11, 2013
It’s also so strange how different the border crossings are. I’ve driven from Washington into British Columbia nearly every year for a ski vacation with friends and I have never once had anyone at the border do anything more than vaguely look at our passports before waving us on. The last time, they didn’t even notice or ask for the passports of the two people in our back seat. Apparently, if you have a couple of snowboards on your roof rack, they assume that you couldn’t possibly be up to no good?
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
Or maybe they’ve intentionally designed illogic into their procedures, just to throw everyone off? I don’t know. It never seems to make sense, but maybe that’s the idea.
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dearrosie
October 11, 2013
I cannot imagine what would possess a border agent to use an old broken window charge from the 1960’s as a reason to deny entry to this man. Perhaps she heard that the man was going to visit the infamous BronxBoy and she couldn’t possibly allow the two men to meet just in case they’d spend the afternoon laughing too much. Or perhaps its simply as PinotNinja explained above, your friends should have had a snowboard on their roof.
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
A snowboard, or maybe a bazooka.
It’s so great to hear from you, Rosie.
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Bruce
October 12, 2013
Was your friend actually found guilty or is the charge still outstanding? Do you think the Canadian official enjoyed rejecting entry by a U.S. citizen based on U.S. records?
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bronxboy55
October 13, 2013
I don’t know what the legal result was, Bruce, but I believe even my description of the charge — breaking and entering — was overstated. I think that charge was reduced to something like disturbing the peace. And, yes, I do think those particular Canadian officials enjoyed the circumstances, so much that it prevented anything like common sense from kicking in.
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rangewriter
October 12, 2013
If this poor man had been trying to enter the United States, this silliness wouldn’t surprise me at all. But what’s going on here? Are the Canadians ripping a page out of America’s book of paranoia or what?
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bronxboy55
October 15, 2013
I don’t know. What made it especially confusing for him was the fact that he’d been to Canada several times over the past four decades. No one had ever made an issue — or even mentioned — this minor event from ancient history, so he had no reason to bring it up himself. I don’t think he was intentionally hiding anything. It just never entered his mind.
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rangewriter
October 16, 2013
I guess this means our parents were right to warn us about the consequences of our youthful exhuberance.
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Jac
October 12, 2013
That is unbelievable, but at the same time, so believable in this upside down world we now find ourselves in. I don’t think a day goes by anymore when I don’t seriously wish I could find a small, uninhabited country, gather all of the smart, sensible people I know, and go start our own civilization. Of course, it would probably start and end, like Animal Farm (or worse, Lord of the Flies) as we humans are just a silly bunch and we don’t seem to learn most of the time….
I hope you were able to somewhat enjoy your friend’s visit, and kudos to her husband for insisting that she go ahead without him. He’s the kind of guy that we need leading countries and patrolling borders.
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bronxboy55
October 15, 2013
If we’re going to start our own civilization, they’re two people I’d hope would join us. (Did you notice how I invited myself?)
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Jac
October 15, 2013
You wouldn’t have to invite yourself – you’re at the top of the list of who I consider smart and sensible. Well, at least sensible. Ok, you’re my brother and that will get you in.
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ShimonZ
October 12, 2013
What’s amazing is how easy it is for most people to cross that border from one side to another… of course, there are hitches and mistakes at times. But I’ve seen hard borders too. And that particular border you’re talking about holds hope for the future. Thanks for the tale in any case.
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bronxboy55
October 15, 2013
Shimon, I agree that there are some dangerous borders in the world, places where you could get shot just for saying the wrong thing. But as the threat of terrorism has grown in the US and Canada, the need for better security has grown along with it. We would hope to see intelligence and common sense at border crossings and airports. What we see, all too often, is the exact opposite.
Look at this, from just a few days ago:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sex-offender-allowed-us-records-check-20549498
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Elyse
October 12, 2013
Borderline insanity, in my book.
When we lived in Europe, we worked in Switzerland and lived in France, crossing the border constantly. It made my husband incredibly uncomfortable. I thought he was being anal. Perhaps there were crimes in his background I don’t know about. Perhaps a window, or a stolen candy bar at age 6. I am going to have to rethink my 27 year marriage now, I’m afraid … Because you can’t be too careful.
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bronxboy55
October 15, 2013
Elyse, one of the many problems we hear about involves a person ending up on some list. It could be a clerical error or two people with the same name, but a simple mistake can prove very difficult or even impossible to correct. Any time you cross a border, you put your immediate future into the hands of the person on the other side of that glass, and maybe that was the cause of your husband’s discomfort. Or it could have been the candy bar.
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lolarugula
October 13, 2013
Fascinating and frightening, at the same time.
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bronxboy55
October 15, 2013
I wish I had known about it sooner. Maybe I could have saved them the frustration and inconvenience. Just imagine someone traveling thousands of miles, headed for their child’s wedding or a parent’s funeral, and being turned away at the border because of some long-forgotten transgression. If everyone knew about this policy, there’d be a big drop in the number of people even trying to enter either country. Maybe that’s the intention?
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lolarugula
October 15, 2013
Who knows – maybe it is their intention. At first read, I thought of the comb I stole from the dime store in 6th grade, but that was expunged from my record when I turned 18. 🙂 Unless, of course, you decide to rat me out. The frustration I’d feel, after traveling so far, would be immense.
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earthriderjudyberman
October 13, 2013
I’ve heard of miscarriages of justice, but the one you wrote about is just insane. As Mr. Spock might say, their reaction is “just not logical.” Now I’m concerned my checkered past might come back to haunt me. Eating food past its sell-by date, fibbing to telemarketers, … and, possibly the worst offense: trespassing when I was in 5th grade. (I got whooped good when my parents got a call. All my friends and I were doing was looking at junk in what we believed was an abandoned barn. It wasn’t abandoned. A house directly across the road should have tipped us off, but we were young and naive.) Now, I suppose that admission will mean I can’t leave Florida.
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bronxboy55
October 16, 2013
I’m afraid your exaggerated concerns may become reality in the near future, Judy. If this minor offense from pre-computer days can come back to haunt someone, imagine how easy it will be from now on, when everything we say and do is recorded somewhere, and a person’s entire life can be stored on a tiny flash drive.
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earthriderjudyberman
October 16, 2013
That is a truly scary thought, Charles. Some folks make it too easy for this invasion of privacy to happen considering that they have put their whole lives out there on social media – including stuff that should never be publicized.
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Val
October 14, 2013
Wow! What a horrible thing to have happened, and how bloody stupid, too! And, as you say – people with far, far worse behaviour are allowed across borders when they shouldn’t be. Not just Canada and the USA, I’m sure.
Just popping in for a moment – I’ve stopped blogging, but am still reading occasionally.
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bronxboy55
October 16, 2013
Just today, I read the story of a man who was born in Ontario and has lived in Canada his entire life. After being convicted of a couple of non-violent crimes, he’s now facing deportation. The Canadian government is saying he was never a citizen — even though he has a Canadian birth certificate — because his parents were diplomats from India.
It’s good to hear from you, Val. I hope you’re doing well.
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Val
October 19, 2013
I’m doing good, thanks, Charles.
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Thoughtlife
October 16, 2013
And here was I thinking Canada to be the home of all reason and sensibleness. I won’t generalise though. I’m sure most of it is that way. These are just a few lawpersons at border control after all. Then again, if they can generalise about a person’s character based on an incident 45 years ago… if it’s good for the goose… In all seriousness though, this type of thing, along with getting routinely stopped and searched by police whenever I go to visit my friend (he lives on a disreputable street of my hometown, and I’m a black man), I have to say kind of chafes on my usual equanimity. I have to ask, how was your friend following the experience? Annoyed? Philosophical? Upset? Calm? (And what kind of supreme databases are they running there in Canada to have 45 year old misdemeanours still on record?)
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bronxboy55
October 16, 2013
I don’t know how such a trivial infraction managed to stay on the books all these years. At some point, someone had to decide to take the record, which I imagine had been typed onto a sheet of paper, and turn it into a permanent computer file. Not much reason and sensibleness there.
Apparently, one of the officers told him that he could seek to have the charge expunged, and then he might — might — be able to enter Canada within a couple of years. He told them, “I’m never coming to Canada again.”
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kathleenmae
October 17, 2013
As always, your blogs never cease to amaze me. Such a good post!
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bronxboy55
October 19, 2013
Thanks, Kathleen. It’s great to hear from you again.
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daisy
October 23, 2013
That’s unbelievable. And yet, I believe it. I’m so sorry to hear what your friend had to go through. Why some are targeted and others not is a great mystery to me. My husband and I were deemed high-risk travelers when we booked a last-minute airline trip to Philadelphia many years ago. We were detained and interrogated (outside the airport, at the baggage drop, nothing “formal”) for about half an hour and nearly missed our flight. The little old man who was checking us in was shaking! Like he was scared of us. He kept checking and calling more people over as he looked at our tickets. Then he demanded we wait there while he brought in security. Why were we traveling at the last minute? Why didn’t we have many bags? When had we been married — all sorts of ridiculous questions. We kept explaining we were headed to a funeral. My husband’s grandfather had just passed away. But as we had no “documentation” on the funeral (who would), we were marked as high risk. Our bags failed to show up both ways through the trip, having been searched and detained… making this difficult time even more so. Plus, once when I tried to re-enter America from Canada with an apple in my lunch bag — well, don’t get me started! I had better just stay put.
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bronxboy55
October 25, 2013
I know this is an unrealistic thought, but if those airport security people had even the slightest opportunity to get to know you and your husband, they would have felt ridiculous for the time they wasted, as well as for the bad feelings and inconvenience they caused you both. Were you the first passengers they’d ever encountered who had to travel unexpectedly to a funeral? On the other hand, there was that apple incident. An apple? Are you out of your mind?
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Paul Grizenko
January 14, 2014
We have a cottage close to the US/Canada border, and frequently cross over by car, boat, and kayak. I hold a Nexus card to keep the border “friction” at a minimum in either direction. We’re probably across that line at least a hundred times each year. And yet… Usually we get waved through, after the minimum formalities. Sometimes, however, we go through a pretty thorough shakedown, with nothing indicating that THIS time it is going to be different.
A few years ago, my wife and a friend went to house-sit a home of a friend in Vermont, who was in Europe for a while, and the plan was that they would drive his car to the airport (in Montreal) when he’d return home, so he could then just drive home. When they tried to cross the border into Canada, they were refused entry because the border guard seemed to believe that they were sneaking an American car into Canada for resale. After several hours of arguing they still were not allowed to cross. There was nothing they could sign or show that would change the guard’s determination. My wife called me in frustration, and I drove down to the border, resplendent in my suit and tie (I had been at a meeting that day), went to the agent and asked him what the problem was. He said that my wife had no papers to prove that the car would be coming back to the USA. I pointed out to him that we did the same thing a number of times before without any issues, and in any case, until the owner of the vehicle came back, we would not be able to get this documentation. He then said that he would release the car if I signed a declaration that the car wasn’t being brought in for import purposes. And so, it was done. Of course, my wife and her friend were livid that as women they had no credibility, but a guy in a suit apparently did. So, was it a misogynistic agent? Or was there some other aspect that wasn’t apparent to us. We still don’t know.
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bronxboy55
January 15, 2014
Thanks for that great story, Paul. So much of the process seems random, contradictory, and unpredictable. Two different people doing the same job and addressing the same circumstances may react in opposite ways. You just never know. But I don’t blame your wife for being angry. That border guard treated them as though they were children, or criminals. If a car is brought into Canada from the US on any kind of permanent basis, it would need the proper documentation — including payment of an import fee — before it could be registered and insured.
Speaking of criminals, have you heard about this?
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/man-found-with-pipe-bomb-still-allowed-to-board-plane-in-edmonton-1.1639741
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Paul Grizenko
January 15, 2014
No, this is new to me. The story is missing a lot of important information, and the implication of the sentence is that this was seen as some kind of teenage prank, as opposed to a potential terrorist incident. Perhaps. I suspect that there was a breakdown of acceptable procedure, and the authorities are not too eager to air their faults in public.
There are lots of things about the various security arrangements that are in place for the border crossing, access to transport, and other situations that seem to be out of proportion to the perceived threats. In the 1950’s Eisenhower notably warned the American people about the machinations of the military-industrial complex, warnings that fell on deaf ears. Yet his basic message was that certain elements of our society NEED to feed a perception of lack of security, in order to be able to do their business. This is even more the case now, following the revelations of Wikileaks, and the material revealed by Edward Snowden. So there appears to be an institutional need to keep the level of paranoia high, just to ensure that there is justification for the the level of intrusion of privacy, and of control of the population. We may not be as free as we would like to believe.
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bronxboy55
January 16, 2014
I just finished reading a book about climate change — written by a skeptic — and he says the same thing about the alarmists: They admit to exaggerating the threat in order to arouse public concern.
The pipe bomb story keeps getting stranger. I’m sure you’ve heard the latest. Apparently, the young man put the bomb into his camera bag and forgot it was in there. I could kick myself every time I do that.
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tkudcz@gmail.com
December 12, 2014
very good
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