Yet again, we find ourselves horrified and confused by an unprovoked shooting in a public place. We look for explanations, and someone or something to blame. We’re sure there must be a reason for these events, a way to understand their causes, and a means to prevent them in the future.
I don’t think so.
What we’ve learned over and over is that a small group of people — and even an individual — can cause widespread injury, death, and destruction, and with very little effort. The massacre of thousands of human beings in a single day is almost unimaginable, but such a thing has happened hundreds of times, in all regions of the world and in every century of recorded history. In the most recent decades, terrorists have reminded us repeatedly that no one is totally safe.
The natural question is, Why? What compels a person to step so far over the line into madness, to ravage so many lives? What possible benefit could the deranged mind be expecting? And how could it be worth the universal revulsion that’s sure to follow? Like everyone else, I’ve struggled in vain to come up with answers that make sense. But that may be the problem. We’re searching for logic where there is none. Maybe we’re dealing with children in grown-up bodies.
When we’re born, and for many months afterward, we are completely self-centered. We have basic physical and emotional needs, and we’re helpless to meet them on our own. So we scream and kick our legs until we get what we want. Later, after we’ve learned to move around and grab objects, we also discover the ability to break things. Give a three-year-old boy a plastic car that runs on a track and he’ll watch, fascinated, for about thirty seconds. Then he’ll begin to tear the track apart and pull the doors off the car. Turning order into disorder gives him a feeling of power, and he likes it. I’d guess that we all did, at first. But at some point, society steps in and starts laying down the rules. Our rights as individuals are often incompatible with those of the larger group, and something has to give. What gives, almost always, is our natural tendencies. We don’t want to stop at the red light, but we do, because we can anticipate the result if we didn’t — and we trust the other drivers to do the same, and for the same reason. But still, the urge is there. At three o’clock in the morning, when we’re the only ones on the road, the temptation reappears, and we can hear the debate inside our heads.
“It’s a red light. I have to wait.”
“But there isn’t another car in sight for miles. What’s the harm?”
And there’s the key: our focus on the potential harm. A newborn doesn’t care about his sleep-deprived parents. He doesn’t care about anything but his own comfort. None of us did at that age. We didn’t comprehend that others suffered in ways similar to the ways in which we suffered. We had to learn that. Most of us eventually do, and that’s why the shooting of moviegoers, or shoppers, or students will always shock us. Because we would never do it. But there are always a few among us who didn’t learn to focus on the potential harm. It isn’t that they weren’t taught. It’s that the lesson didn’t take.
We can choose to condemn the parents, but I doubt that’s a valid approach. We can blame the media for glorifying violence, but stories of murder and other vicious crime have been around for as long as we have. For most of us, they’re just stories, and they don’t cause us to duplicate the heinous behavior. They may even help us release pent-up frustration, and allow some primitive, infantile part of our brains to run wild and imagine how much fun it would be to do such things. But the ability to reflect and follow our moral conscience maintains control. Again, most people have that ability. However, in any given population there are those whose emotional development stalled and froze. Their conscience doesn’t function in any useful way. And for the most part, they’re free to pursue their impulses. That is, until they do the unthinkable. Their power comes from the same place as our impotence: They know what they’re going to do, and where, and when. We don’t.
In most situations that involve opposing forces, one will usually win. For example, consider two very different people living in the same household — one likes noise, while the other craves quiet. The loud person will dominate, because you can drown out silence with noise, but not the other way around. More to the point, a single person banging on a pot can disturb a hundred neighbors trying to read.
Intentional and widespread violence is like that, and almost impossible to prevent. We can reduce its incidence, but no matter how often we succeed, we’ll always focus on the occasional failures. This is because we’re unaware of the disasters that were averted. We don’t have any idea how many car accidents we’ve avoided by simply leaving ten seconds earlier, or later. Or by stopping at that red light. We know only about the bad things that do happen. And then we’re back where we started: asking why.
I have no answer, really. Nothing that seems adequate or satisfying. But I worry when I hear people despair about the health of society.
“The world is going crazy,” they say.
No, it isn’t. There are more than seven billion of us. And most of us — the vast majority — don’t go around destroying things or hurting others. Relatively few are involved in violent crime. The number of murders in Colorado hovers around 200 every year. If the Aurora killings had been caused by a dozen separate shooters scattered throughout the state, they would have gone almost unnoticed. But because the act was committed by a single person in a specific place at a definite time, we call it a massacre. Yes, we’re horrified and confused. We should be. But while we may prefer twelve murderers, killing in isolation, and doing so in a way that allows us to remain unaware of them, the real harm is essentially the same. We can be certain that someone, somewhere, lost their life in a brutal manner on July 19th. And someone else on July 21st. We just didn’t hear about them.
The news media report the worst of our actions for a reason: they’re unusual, and they seize our attention. We’re stunned and saddened by them. We keep returning for more information, because we can’t believe what we’re seeing and hearing. If and when that reaction ever stops, then the world will have gone crazy. Then we’ll be back to being three-year-olds, but with unlimited mobility and access to implements of mayhem, free to tear up the tracks without fear.
For now, I grieve for the victims and their loved ones, while I try to remind myself that, fortunately, most of us have grown up. But just because we far outnumber the tiny few who would hurt so many, that doesn’t mean we have the advantage. They enjoy the element of surprise, an irrational need to cause pain, and a seeming inability to feel remorse.
The kind of terror that took place last week will no doubt be repeated. Placing blame may make some of us feel better, temporarily, but it isn’t the answer. Maybe there is no answer. All we can do is pay closer attention, and treat each other with kindness and compassion. And continue to act like grown-ups. The world can always use a little more of that.
Sarah
July 26, 2012
I would suggest an answer as to why this happened, but I’d rather use this comment to suggest that we focus on the miracles that came out of this horrific episode: the pregnant woman who was shot in the stomach and gave birth to a healthy baby boy on Tuesday; the young woman who took a bullet through the brain, but it missed vital blood vessels, so she was neither killed nor severely injured; the shooter’s rifle jammed, buying precious seconds for people to escape. These are just a few. I’m not suggesting we all just go and make lemonade out of life’s lemons. I’m saying there are other focuses we can have in times like this. And also that good will always triumph over evil. Just my two cents.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Immediately after any horrible event, we’re caught between thoughts of how it could have been worse and how it shouldn’t have happened at all. I find myself bouncing back and forth between the two. And I agree about good triumphing over evil — I just wish it would happen sooner.
LikeLike
nailingjellotoatree
July 26, 2012
Very well said. And yes, thanks to a God who created free will, all of us have the potential for evil lurking within us everyday. So thankful that, in general, we all manage to quell those impulses. I fear the day when fewer and fewer people squelch the evil within.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
“I fear the day when fewer and fewer people squelch the evil within.”
I think that’s part of the point I struggled so ineptly to make: Every day there are more people than there were the day before. Within that group of additional people, there are going to be a few — and a few is all it takes — who will do something to hurt a number of their fellow human beings. And we will again and again mistakenly translate that sad fact into an unfounded generalization about everyone.
LikeLike
Marie M
July 31, 2012
Regarding the tendency to generalize: I think it’s understandable, if undesirable.
It is my firm belief that in the end–perhaps only The Very End–good will triumph over evil. However, it appears to me that for right now, evil often appears to be stronger than good. I mean this in the sense that it takes many good comments/experiences/events to erase, overcome, or compensate for evil. Think of a nasty remark someone directs at another: the target usually needs more than just one equal-and-opposite positive remark to balance the first one and restore trust or at least neutrality, whether that positive remark comes from the original speaker or someone else.
All of that is to suggest that maybe it takes more effort to vanquish evil than it does to commit it. [Stated that way, the idea seems obvious.] Perhaps we as a species need to practice more loving and positive thoughts and actions in order to build up something of a cushion against whatever evil will affect us/the world. After all, isn’t it the assurance that there are indeed goodness, joy, love, and peace in the world that allows us to move on from loss, tragedy, evil? We certainly trumpet evil and its effects; let’s spend more effort creating, recognizing, and celebrating the good among us in order to keep evil from appearing to overrun all.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
I agree, Marie. I think the approach you suggest would also help keep people from falling into despair over what they perceive as a disintegrating society. With the flood of negative news coming at us from everywhere, it’s easy to adopt the attitude that we’re outnumbered, and evil is winning.
Thank you for your thoughts.
LikeLike
The Sandwich Lady
July 26, 2012
Charles, a very thought-provoking and timely post. Thank you.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
I know there’s been a lot written about this incident, Catherine, as there is about all similar events. I appreciate that you took the time to read my post.
LikeLike
shoreacres
July 26, 2012
Your point about the Colorado shooting grabbing our attention because of the number of victims is valid. On the other hand, on the Sunday after the Colorado shooting a van carrying illegal immigrants turned over in the human smuggling corridor that runs through the heart of Texas. Fourteen people were killed.
In the spring, “in less than a month, the mutilated bodies of 14 men were left in a van in downtown Nuevo Laredo, 23 people were found hanged or decapitated in the same border city and 18 dismembered bodied were left near Mexico’s second-largest city, Guadalajara.”
In Chicago, there have been 300 murders this year, and the number of shootings is on track to exceed last years well before the end of the year, despite the fact that Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
In each of these situations, the violence is not due to the “snapping” of a single individual. It is systemic, part of intentional efforts to further a particular cause.
The fact is, we do not have a gun problem. We have a cultural and governmental problem. While Hollywood and video game makers glorify violence, the government clearly is attempting to make it more difficult for citizens to defend themselves. At the same time, they deny or withdraw support for police and other law enforcement agencies. Nine border patrol stations in four states are being closed, for example, and Border Patrol agents such as Brian Terry were ordered to use “bean-bag” weapons as a first defense.
Of course I was shocked by the Aurora shootings, and I have been as touched as anyone by the courage of many and the miracles granted to some. Still, the hypocrisy of walking guns into Mexico and disarming Americans, both law enforcement and citizens, while blathering on about gun violence is breath-taking. We had better grow up, and take a look at what’s happening around us, while there’s still time. There are people out there who love events like the Colorado shooting. They can be used to distract us from even deeper problems.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
It must be that the number of victims is just one element. Another is a perceived relevance — anyone can imagine being in a movie theater, and how traumatic it would be to suddenly find yourself in the middle of gunfire. In the case of the bodies discovered in Mexico, there’s more of an emotional distance between the victims and the person hearing about them in the US and Canada. That’s something that happened “down there” in some obscure little border town, and besides, “those people must have been up to who-knows-what.” There’s much less of an empathy factor. Something like when we hear about a ferry sinking with four hundred people aboard. It seems less tragic if it’s in South America or eastern Europe.
About the guns: I don’t like them, and have never even held one. But I’m pretty sure that people intent on killing complete strangers will find a way, with or without guns. Just in the last twenty years, we’ve learned enough about letter bombs, rental trucks filled with chemical fertilizer, and exploding gym shoes to know that there’s no lack of creativity when it comes to the business of mass murder.
I’ve looked at violent crime statistics by state, and the numbers go up and down, but tend to stay around an average figure. Our attempt to assign cause and effect to those variations is ridiculous. It implies that there’s a logic to all of this, and that something we do can predictably improve the outcome. If crime drops by seven percent one year, there’s a good chance it will bounce back up by ten percent the next. Those running for office will bemoan the increases, while those already in office will brag about the decreases.
I still think there will always be a number of lunatics within any population who are willing and eager to kill for little or no reason. It’s always been true, and probably always will be. So as we go from seven billion to eight billion people, violence will rise accordingly.
LikeLike
shoreacres
July 27, 2012
Of course you’re right about the relevance factor. Those obscure little border towns are my backyard. The towns I liked to shop in, I’ve judged off-limits now. Friends who work in certain areas are now carrying. A friend’s cousin was kidnapped and murdered. And on it goes.
That’s one reason the people in Arizona and Texas are so exercised about all this. If we don’t stop it here, eventually it will be in someone else’s backyard – a thousand miles north.
LikeLike
dearrosie
July 26, 2012
Thank you for writing this Charles.
We will never understand why this person not only drove through the red light at 3 am but felt “entitled” to kill random strangers.
We can’t help thinking “what if it were me or one of my loved ones in that theater?”
We can’t blame his parents, or the university which must’ve seen his strange behavior, or the easy way one can buy guns and ammunition in this country, or the mailman who delivered parcels from gun shops. Or can we?
We can and must, as you said “treat each other with kindness and compassion”
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Rosie, I don’t know enough about his behavior to respond. I do know that a lot of people seem odd to us, as I must seem odd to some. After the fact, it’s easy to make the leap from thinking someone is strange to recognizing signs of impending violence. Beforehand, not so easy. Law enforcement likes to talk about “connecting the dots,” but that’s extremely hard to do when you don’t yet see the dots.
LikeLike
Hippie Cahier
July 26, 2012
If the Aurora killings had been caused by a dozen separate shooters scattered throughout the state, they would have gone almost unnoticed.
That sentence stood out for me. It was a particularly brutal week in Iraq. No one I know even blinked.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
I bet it was a brutal week in a lot of places, Hippie. Every week is. But what we don’t know doesn’t seem to hurt us.
LikeLike
Angelo DeCesare
July 26, 2012
Charlie, I think you’re correct that the problem is insolvable. There will always be a percentage of the population that suffers from mental illness, caused by biological or environmental factors. There is no way to control the behavior of all of these these individuals, all the time. Eventually, someone with a behavioral disorder is going to act in a violent manner. Perhaps, in the future, we will learn to minimize the factors that lead to violent behavior caused by parental neglect and abuse (I happen to believe that bad fathers are the cause of most of society’s woes). We can also, in our time, minimize the access to weapons that are used, not to protect, but to slaughter. Despite all the rhetoric about constitutional rights, the easy access to guns exists for one reason only: profit. If the NRA and their political allies want to, they can make the process buying assault weapons more difficult without touching the Second Amendment. But in a capitalist society, loss of revenue is considered a much greater crime than the loss of lives.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Ang, I’ve never tried to buy a gun, so I have no idea what’s involved. The purpose of most guns is to kill something, and it makes sense that acquiring them should be a rigorous process. At the same time, criminals don’t follow the rules, so I don’t know what good it will do to pass new legislation. It reminds me of air travel and border crossings: law-abiding citizens are jumping through hoops in order to adhere to ever more demanding requirements, while the people who are planning to cause trouble continue to circumvent the system. We can’t seem to get out of our own way.
LikeLike
Darlene Steelman
July 26, 2012
Great post…. has me thinking a little. Yes, we all have free will, and sometimes the need to do what we want to do, outweighs the morality of doing what we should do. Sometimes, it takes a much more chaotic and heartbreaking turn.
I’ll never understand how one person (or a group of people) can be so ticked off at a place, person or thing and then ultimately make innocent people suffer for it.
We all always have a choice. I just wish more people would think things through and not act on impulse.
Again, great post.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Thank you for your thoughts, Darlene. I’m not sure people who cause this kind of violence have the ability to step outside of themselves and think through what they’re doing. I know we like to say we all have free will, but would someone in control of their own thoughts choose to do something like this?
LikeLike
Darlene Steelman
July 27, 2012
I agree. It’s interesting, becasue when I was younger (and much more immature) I acted on impulse alot. “You made me mad, so now you must pay.” I had no “pause button” to put things in perspective. Now, I never shot up a movie theater or bombed a village, but I had a hard time thinking of others when I got really angry.
But people like that, yeah, they do lack the ability to empathize and consider everyone else. I have to say something like this is the ultimate in narcissism. “I’m angry and everyone must know! I don’t care who I hurt.”
So sad.
LikeLike
cesskatisya
July 26, 2012
Perhaps human beings just don’t see the value of life. We’ve lost most of our virtues, isn’t this the next logical step in the de-evolution of man?
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
It can seem that way. But even a glance at our written history shows how brutal people have always been toward each other. It’s just that modern technology has allowed the violent few to carry out their crimes more efficiently, while giving the rest of us the opportunity to become intimately familiar with the experience, sometimes within minutes.
LikeLike
morristownmemos by Ronnie Hammer
July 26, 2012
I don’t think you give enough thought to he real issue of serious mental illness. Looking at that young man as he appeared in court showed us that this was no ordinary person who didn’t consider the rights of others. This was a sick, out of focus, eyes glazed over person who doesn’t have the right to walk free in society. He should be put in a facility that will handle his problem, and keep the rest of us safe from the effects of this horribly destructive illness.
Since all the budget cuts have been enacted how many cities around the country are turning mentally ill people out on the streets to prey on all of us?
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 26, 2012
Ronnie, it’s always easy to recognize dangerous people after they do something like this. The problem is anticipating their actions. That part is a lot harder. How many times have we seen serial killers taken into custody, only to hear how incredulous their own families are? Don’t their friends and neighbors usually describe them as quiet and well-behaved? Of course this man, if convicted, will be removed from the general public. But he obviously knew how to fool almost everyone around him. Do most people with mental illness have the ability to do that? I doubt it. Also, I don’t think he had a criminal record before last Friday. We can’t start arresting people just because we think they’re weird. As I said, I have no answer.
LikeLike
greenroomgallery
July 26, 2012
Thank you Charles, for your well written thoughts. I feel for everyone who has lost someone in their life due to this tragedy or any other tragedy that is happening in other parts of the world right now or in the past. It is surely impossible to makes sense of senseless acts of violence other human beings. It may be genetic or environmental cause but I think you are spot on about the self centred, egotistic mind of someone who has never grown up. It makes me wonder if empathy is something we learn or something that naturally develops and why some are without it.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Charlotte, I think we have to learn empathy, just as we have to learn almost everything else that helps us get through life. And just as with music or language or math, some people seem to have an above-average ability to be empathetic, while others have little or no ability at all. But why this is, I couldn’t begin to understand.
LikeLike
Diane Henders
July 26, 2012
Great post, Charles. When something like this happens, we want to make sense of it somehow, as if understanding it will make it better.
It’s easy to blame society, and I think to some extent it’s valid to be concerned about the pervasive violence in popular media. One of my friends is an emergency-room nurse, and she tells stories of kids arriving in emergency, absolutely devastated by how much a gunshot wound hurts… because in the movies, guys get shot, wince, and go on to scale Mount Everest ten minutes later. A lot of young viewers simply don’t grasp the true consequences.
But I don’t think that’s the whole answer. I like your analogy – like babies, people who commit violent crime are incapable of comprehending or empathizing with the suffering of others. I hope some day we’ll be able to detect and treat these “wiring problems” before they result in harm to others.
And in the mean time, I like your solution. Let’s be kind, compassionate grown-ups. It can’t hurt.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
I guess if I were that emergency room nurse, I’d have to wonder why so many kids are coming in with gunshot wounds in the first place. Just ten days ago, there was a story about a man in Indiana who was shot to death by his three-year-old son. I try to assemble the circumstances in my head that would allow a child that age to get his hands on a loaded weapon, and I can’t do it.
LikeLike
Donna Scuderi
July 26, 2012
A good, honest measure of the truth–the sad, painful truth.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Definitely sad and painful, Donna.
LikeLike
Stacie Chadwick
July 26, 2012
Charles,
It’s hard for me to pick a favorite post of yours, but this is so near and dear to my heart (and in my back yard) that I might give this one a tiny asterisk. After thinking about this for a long time, I appreciate you eloquently pointing out aspects of this tragedy that I hadn’t thought of. I’m sending this out on FB and Twitter.
Hope you are well,
Stacie
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
I encourage everyone to read your post, too, Stacie. It forced me to think about the subject much more closely.
http://geminigirlinarandomworld.com/2012/07/22/colorado-is-burning-but-not-in-a-way-anyone-could-predict/
LikeLike
Stacie Chadwick
July 27, 2012
Thanks for the kind shout-out Charles. I appreciate it. I hope neither of us has a subject remotely similar to write about again. =/
LikeLike
cat
July 26, 2012
I grew up with violence … they say if you were abused you will be an abuser … who is “THEY” anyway … I never laid a hand on any of my kids … welcome to your and my world … Hope and truth comes from deep within … as long as we refuse to attach ourself to anything … Thank you for your excellent write up … Love, cat.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
As with many things, cat, I don’t know a lot about abused children. I would imagine the complexities would be endless, though, and trying to predict what someone will do or how they’ll be affected as an adult seems difficult, if not impossible. I’m sorry to hear that you grew up with violence, but glad to know you’ve changed the pattern.
LikeLike
sybil
July 26, 2012
In the words of Jack Layton (a well-loved Canadian politician who died last year):
“My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.”
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Every time I’ve heard his words, I’ve thought about how simple and perfect they are. They seem even more so now. Thanks, Sybil.
LikeLike
Michelle Gillies
July 26, 2012
This is the most comprehensive piece I have read about this incident. Not that we will ever really comprehend the whole thing, but your reasoning is sound.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Some will think so, Michelle, and many won’t. Read on.
LikeLike
marymtf
July 26, 2012
Sorry not to agree with you, Charles. I can see that you’re trying to work through the unworkable issue and I can sense your agony. Yours and every other civilised human being on this earth. You’re a parent (I’ve read your posts) and I’m a parent and grandparent. I worry about their futures all the time.
I’m sorry, but I believe that the world has gone mad. While it’s true that the majority of us aren’t involved in violent crime, we are increasingly being held hostage to those who make the loudest noise. There’s no giant answer fits all solution to what’s happening, but there’s surely something we can all do as individuals. We can find violence unacceptable by not excusing it, or analysing it and most definitely we should not justify it. There’s too much of that going on.
I’d like to believe in reincarnation but I don’t so I value life (even those 12 individual ones that may not make the news).. I spent 18 months growing 2 human beings. Every life is worthwhile and each individual entitled to his / her full ‘threescore years and ten’ or whatever it is these days. Good post, Charles, it made me think.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
Mary, I understand why you say the world has gone mad. If we want to, we can come up with plenty of evidence to show that things are more insane now than ever. But I think we could just as easily prove that as you go back in time, the worse it was. It just depends on the facts we choose, and the ones we ignore.
The bloodiest school massacre in US history took place in 1927. The number of people murdered by the Nazis at Treblinka is estimated to be around 850,000. Stalin and Mao both had tens of millions of their own citizens killed. In four centuries, about 12 million Africans were snatched from their homes and sold into slavery. The war between the North and the South, fought mostly over the issue of slavery, cost the lives of more than 620,000 Americans.
There have been horrific massacres in every era, all over the planet. It’s certainly easier today for individuals with little or no real power to perpetrate such crimes, but it’s also far more likely they’ll be caught and punished.
I think the madness has always been here. But because of advances in communication technology, we know about it faster and in greater detail. And, probably, that fact also adds to the current appeal of violence — instant infamy.
LikeLike
marymtf
July 28, 2012
Boy, you opened a hornet’s nest, didn’t you? Even your usual writing style is different although the gentle tone is still there. I like your articles, this one included, they say more about you than your mini-bio ever could.
Charles, it’s nice of you to take the time to respond. I have to say that the world’s gone mad. If I admit that the madness has always been here then what hope is there for us all? Perhaps I should have said that the world (or humanity) has come to be more accepting. A humanity that had previously considered itself civilised has scratched its civilised veneer and found itself no better than its ancestors. I don’t know about elsewhere, but in Australia suicide bombers would have made front page news ten years ago, now it’s only another five o’clock news item. I used to have such faith in movies where good beat bad and justice prevailed. Perhaps I’ve grown up.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 28, 2012
“A humanity that had previously considered itself civilised has scratched its civilised veneer and found itself no better than its ancestors.”
No better and no worse. That’s what I’ve been saying. The real difference, I think, is that everything is happening more quickly and in greater numbers. If you say that’s caused people to be more complacent, I’d have to agree. We all have an amazing ability to adapt to circumstances that were, at first, shocking. It’s what helps us survive personal tragedy. But it’s also what numbs us to things that should be unacceptable.
LikeLike
mystudentstruggles
July 26, 2012
Very thought provoking post. It’s scary how some people have no regard for innocent lives, I don’t know whether it’s society, or a mentally unwell individual but either way it makes you question everything. The media, especially violent films and games have a lot to answer for as children particularly are impressionable and take cues from things around them. Then again, there are obviously lots of people who see the same films and play the same games who aren’t affected, perhaps it’s a combination of that along with a lower mental tolerance and social isolation? http://mystudentstruggles.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/a-worrying-time-to-be-alive/
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 27, 2012
You’re right about the movies and video games: most people who watch or play them don’t go out and commit homicide. But I think the reverse is true: people who are already violent are probably attracted to that kind of entertainment. The popularity of those things is a reflection of our society — or at least a significant fraction of our society. But I doubt that they’re the cause of the violent behavior.
LikeLike
Cathleen Barnhart
July 26, 2012
Thank you do having the courage to address this difficult issue in a thoughtful and thought-provoking way. You have sparked an important conversation.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 28, 2012
I imagine millions of people are having similar conversations.
LikeLike
Andrea Kelly
July 26, 2012
Great post, thank you so much for opening up the discussion and getting us all thinking about it.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 28, 2012
Thanks, Andrea. I just tried to add my little bit to what a lot of people were already thinking about.
LikeLike
Ursula
July 26, 2012
What are you saying, Charles? That children are crazed lunatics not to be let loose with a gun?
I believe that you, and some (thankfully not all) of your commentators got a little muddled. Ronnie Hammer [now there is an axe murderer in the making if by name only] made a very valid point:The mentally ill are mentally ill. Nothing to do with ‘growing up’. Neither do I get your answer to Ronnie:”He obviously knew how to fool people around him.” Come again, Charles? Fooling other people indicates ‘premeditation’. Most murders are not premeditated. Maybe you should go and watch some more opera. Or Shakespeare. It’s murder and mayhem up there on the stage.
Before I am misunderstood: I do not make light of what happened. And if anyone ever so much as laid a finger on the person most important to me they wouldn’t know what’s hit them.
To chime with one of your commentators, not that that’ll increase my popularity, I am amazed that not more of us do the unimaginable. But then maybe, just maybe, most of us are not unhinged.
U
LikeLike
marymtf
July 26, 2012
Honestly, Ursula, where are you coming from? I don’t understand the conclusions you’ve come to given the tone of this article. It does not make flat statements about what’s wrong with the world (rather it attempts the reverse). In this piece Charles tries to work through the issue and tries to come to grips with an unsolvable problem; it doesn’t come up with definitive answers to an increasingly complex question: ‘I’ve struggled in vain to come up with answers that make sense. But that may be the problem. We’re searching for logic where there is none.’
It’s your right to disagree, just back up your statements with facts if you want to be convincing. I have to wonder why you are so aggressive in your response and if you have a particular bias that makes you so angry.
LikeLike
Ursula
July 27, 2012
@marymtf: Where am I coming from? I take it you don’t mean that in geographical terms.
I have reread your first comment in response to Charles’ article and, as the first time round, I agree with your thoughtful sentiment and its emotion. But I also do think, and Charles knows that I find him charming, that – in my opinion – this post was one of his weaker pieces. It doesn’t make sense. Either there are nutters among us or not. And there are. How far can we hold them responsible for their actions? I don’t know. Using the lowest common denominator of our understanding of the human soul I’d say: People like the Colorado killer are wrongly wired (no, I am not an electrician). This is not making excuses: If my son had been in that guy’s line of fire I would not wish to be held responsible for my (re)action. However, and this may be worth pondering on for a moment: Since I am of sound mind I sincerely hope that I wouldn’t return fire with fire. No matter how strong my emotions, my grief.
As to the tone of my first response, what you call ‘aggressive’: I am afraid that’s my style. I wouldn’t call it aggressive. But yes, I am brisk and to the point, maybe abrasive. Some like it, some don’t. Some take it the way it’s meant, some misunderstand.
And no, I don’t have ‘a particular bias’ that makes me so ‘angry’. I am just angry that we were thrown out of paradise. And yes, I do eat several apples a day. One last thought and it’s something I am almost militant about: We, humans, are all responsible for each other. We need to look out for each other. Not hide behind our own neat front doors. Ignoring what’s right underneath our noses. And then gasp in horror when the worst happens.
U
LikeLike
Snoring Dog Studio
July 27, 2012
Excellent comments, Ursula. The mentally ill don’t wander about trying to fool people into believing there isn’t mayhem going on in their heads. We have a pathetic history of caring for the mentally ill, made worse by a gutting of public health programs and limited access to appropriate and adequate health care. Combine mental illness with a too-easy access to guns and we have tragedies like these. Combine unmitigated stress of living in poverty and too-easy access to guns and we have more tragedies. But in our society we can’t even talk about gun control – it’s not politically beneficial. And now, the rush for new gun permits in Colorado? Dear God Almighty, that’s going to solve problems, eh?!
Marymtf: I don’t believe that Charles has a policy that readers can’t disagree with him. And you didn’t supply any facts in your comment to support your statement about the world has gone mad. Further, I don’t have a problem with Ursula’s frank and straightforward tone. It’s refreshing.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 28, 2012
Ursula, I think the term mentally ill refers to such a broad spectrum of conditions and behaviors that it’s all but useless. At the far end of the spectrum are the people who are out of touch with what most of us would call reality. They can’t take care of themselves and have little or no self-awareness. In other words, they’re incapable of adjusting their mental state to match their current situation, and they’re certainly incapable of fooling others into believing they’re all right. The person who committed this crime in Aurora apparently led a life — up until last week — that had most people around him believing he was a normal, healthy human being. I could be completely wrong, but I think his behavior since his arrest is an act (the wild facial expressions, spitting at guards, and now claiming amnesia). But we’ll have to wait and see. Meanwhile, if we’re going to label someone mentally ill only after he’s done something that we consider, by definition, to be insane, then again what good is the label? We might just as well invent a new word — cinecide — to refer to someone who kills people in a movie theater. Then, after the crime, we can all call him a cinecidal maniac. I don’t see how that moves us at all toward any kind of solution.
About premeditation, I hesitate to respond because I’m not sure what you’re saying. I believe this crime was completely premeditated. Are you agreeing or disagreeing?
And about your amazement that more of us don’t do the unimaginable, I feel the same way. I think we all have different limits to what we can tolerate — but we all have limits and are all capable of becoming “unhinged” at some point. But it should be possible to connect the cause and effect, to make at least some sense of the behavior. The shooter in Aurora seems to have stepped beyond his limits, and then reacted in a way that’s random and irrational.
Finally, no I don’t think young children are crazed lunatics. But obviously they shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near guns, because they haven’t yet developed the ability to anticipate undesirable results or to care about those results. I still believe this guy in Colorado is a twenty-four-year-old child, who is, in most other ways capable of functioning like someone we would consider mentally healthy. And that’s why so many people who know him are shocked by this.
LikeLike
jeanjames26
July 29, 2012
First off, I really enjoyed reading what I believe to be your very non biased thoughts on this horrible tradgedy. The term mentally ill is nothing more than a category. What’s inside that category are approx. 297 psychiatric disorders one of which this particular shooter will be diagnosed. His actions were obviously premeditated, his behavior (IMHO) sociopathic. I too believe his googly eyed nonsense in the courtroom is a ruse. But as you say, time will tell.
As far as “The worlds gone mad!” is concerned I think it’s the media that’s gone mad reporting the story over and over and over again, provoking an irrational fear that there’s a gunman around every corner. Over the past century alone over 90 million people have been slaughtered in multiple countries around the globe through genocides.
Is there a solution? I don’t know. But I do know blame is not a solution, diligence is. If you feel someone out there is in need of help, report it.
After a gas explosion, you always hear someone say, ‘…yeah I smelled gas for a couple of days’ but no one bothered to call it in.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
Another 68 million died in the two world wars alone, and the number injured and indirectly affected is impossible to count. I can’t think of a greater madness than that.
I agree with you that paying attention and getting involved can only help. Our ability to communicate instantly and from almost anywhere should be part of the solution. But again, sometimes the obvious isn’t so obvious until it’s too late.
LikeLike
creatingreciprocity
July 26, 2012
I agree with pretty much every word of that, Charles however as someone who doesn’t live in America it is astounding to me that guns and ammunition are so freely available. There may be no way of stopping this kind of awful behaviour so it is definitely a good idea to make buying such weaponry as difficult as possible – or at least that’s how it seems to me.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 28, 2012
Trisha, I hope I’m not coming across as a gun advocate. I’ve never touched a gun, and can’t fathom why so many people seem enamored with them. At the same time, with street gangs and drug dealers carrying weapons superior to those of the police, and criminals walking around armed to the teeth, the idea of now trying to remove guns from society seems ludicrous. I’d love to see it happen, but really — how?
LikeLike
creatingreciprocity
July 28, 2012
I know what you are saying but I watched a news report where the police spokesman listed the number of guns and thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition this young man bought legally and while I don’t think anybody civilian should really be able to buy a gun or ammunition legally, surely at the very least it should be much harder to do this?
There are armed criminals everywhere and it’s true that they are dangerous but as far as I know the murder rate in countries with strict gun laws are not any higher in general. And I don’t think that’s because there is less crime – Europe is crime-ridden and full of gangs. I live in Ireland in a city called Limerick that is known as Stab City (seriously – there’s class) and we gave a huge organised crime problem (it has been compared to Palermo more than once) and we can’t buy guns legally – even our ordinary beat police aren’t armed (though there are plenty of police who are) – and as far as I know we have a slightly smaller chance of getting murdered than if we lived in the U.S.
I completely understand wanting to protect oneself and one’s family but my question is this – is making guns freely available working to achieve this protection? Surely it’s just adding to the sources of risk?
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
The subject of street gangs has confused me for years. The idea that there are drug-enraged teenagers roaming our cities with weapons that scare even the police is beyond my comprehension. Maybe at a certain size, human populations become uncontrollable. In China and other countries, they’ve resorted to executing suspected criminals without bothering with anything that we would consider a fair trial. That could be where we’re headed.
LikeLike
ptigris213
July 26, 2012
Read “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin de Becker. He explains precisely why these monsters do what they do.
The first mistake everyone makes is that these monsters are ‘mentally ill’. “He had to be crazy” to do these things, right?? No. They’re not crazy. Oh, no they are not. Sociopaths (aka psychopaths) are many things, but mentally ill is not one of them. They have NO feelings for anyone save themselves. They have NO empathy for humanity. They believe everyone is like them: cold, emotionless, evil.
They do it for attention. They murder for the notoriety. That monster who gunned down innocent people in a movie theater did it solely to get his name into history. He doesn’t care if he’s going to prison. He really doesn’t, because no matter what, he thinks, whenever they hear his name, or when they see his picture, people will know who he is and what he did.
You aren’t going to stop people like this with gun laws or prohibiting the purchase of ammunition. We already HAVE gun laws, and the vast majority of gun owners abide by them. I have a lot of guns, and not once in my life have I ever even considered using them on a human. If you remember, there’s plenty of countries that allow people to own guns, and they don’t have the murders like we do.
We have the culture and Hollywood that glorifies violence (too many movies to name extol bombing, killing, rape, you name it, and the bad guys are the heroes.)
It’s not the gun that kills, it’s the man holding it. He doesn’t always use a gun, either. Timothy McVeigh used fertilizer and a van. The 9/11 terrorists used box knives and jets.
If you recall, Holme’s entire apartment was loaded with homemade booby traps. Ammonium nitrate is easy to get. You can make napalm in your bathroom. The Times Square Bomber loaded his SUV with propane tanks and sparklers to set them off.
It’s not the weapons. It’s the mind pulling the trigger. You aren’t going to stop them. All you can do is keep your wits about you and trust your gut. If something doesn’t feel right, don’t argue with your intuition…listen to it.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 29, 2012
I agree with you that removing guns doesn’t remove the impulse to kill, and if someone is driven with enough internal force, they’ll always find a way. But I refuse to believe that anyone is motivated to commit murder because of cultural influences. As I said in the post, for thousands of years we’ve had stories that depict every crime imaginable — many are considered classics. No one kills simply because Shakespeare said it was all right. But when you look at the process in reverse, it makes sense that someone who is already homicidal might very well enjoy that kind of entertainment.
LikeLike
helen meikle's scribblefest
July 26, 2012
“If the Aurora killings had been caused by a dozen separate shooters scattered throughout the state, they would have gone almost unnoticed.”
This sentence stood out for me as well – like ‘creatingreciprocity’, I don’t live in America. To me, the idea that a dozen people shot by separate shooters would have gone almost unnoticed is totally mind-boggling.
I agree completely with almost everything you say. It’s a thought-provoking look at the problem of mental illness. But according to the University of Chicago Crime Lab and the Centers for Disease Control, the US averages 87 gun deaths each day, with an average of 183 injured. They estimate there are 300 million guns to be found across the country, and that the annual cost of gun violence to society is $100 billion. How can this be acceptable?
Americans say that if you’re not American, you can’t possibly understand the sanctity of the right to bear arms. They’re right. i’m not American, and I don’t understand.
LikeLike
Snoring Dog Studio
July 27, 2012
I don’t understand this “sanctity of the right to bear arms” either, Helen. And I’m American and I’m horrified by our gun culture.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 29, 2012
Helen, I’m an American and I see no sanctity in owning guns. As I said in my reply to an earlier comment, I’ve never held a gun, and doubt I ever will. But I also know that there are a lot of statistics flying around out there, and very few of them agree. No one could possibly know how many guns there are. Are you talking about legally registered weapons in private homes? Does that figure include military and law enforcement? If individuals are found to have large collections of guns, what does that do to the numbers? (When I hear that one man owns a hundred weapons, I immediately wonder what he’s up to, but beyond that the number doesn’t worry me — he can’t use them all at once. In other words, for any individual, having two guns is just as dangerous as a hundred.) Do the 87 gun deaths per day (assuming that’s an accurate figure) include suicides? Intentional self-inflicted injuries far outnumber homicides in the US. The estimated $100 billion cost to society is an impressive total, but I have no idea what it means. Is it really possible to calculate such a thing?
When I said the dozen shootings would have gone almost unnoticed, I didn’t mean they would be considered unimportant. Locally, they would have been treated as the most urgent of crimes, and certainly for the families and friends of the victims, they would have been traumatic. But in a nation of 310 million people, every murder isn’t going to be front-page news for everyone.
In answer to your question, none of this is acceptable. The purpose of a gun, almost always, is to injure or kill something or someone. But here we are. As more criminals acquire bigger and increasingly powerful weapons, more law-abiding citizens purchase guns to protect themselves from those criminals. Once that process starts, it just keeps escalating. Tell us how to stop it. I don’t have even the beginning of an idea.
LikeLike
Betty Londergan
July 27, 2012
I don’t know that I agree with what you’ve said, and I know for sure, having spent 22 years in Colorado that my heart really aches that this kind of violence happened there AGAIN…but I do know that what you said resonated with me. We want so much to blame some bigger organization or malaise in our society but it seems like the guy was just crazy and had a lot of access to a LOT of weapons … and that, I think, is something that bears scrutiny.
He ordered 6000 rounds of ammo AND grenades AND bullet-proof stuff thru the mail and it wasn’t even flagged .. but I have to take off my flip flops to go thru airline security? What a world we live in … with 300 million guns in America and most with 6 guns in a household …
we’ve set ourselves up for a life of violence. I hate the hold that the NRA has on our country and its gun laws. Totally insane… that’s all i can say …
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 29, 2012
The question I keep coming back to is, what good will stricter laws do? If tomorrow, it became illegal for anyone outside of law enforcement to own a gun, law-abiding citizens would turn theirs in, and the criminals would keep theirs. The people who would give up their guns aren’t the people I worry about.
I’m as sickened as you are that a young man can buy that much ammunition and no one seems to notice, until it’s too late. But in a crowded theater, how many bullets would a person need in order to kill and injure as many as he did? He could have done the same damage with a hundred rounds. I think the real issue is what was going on in this guy’s brain, and not how many guns and bullets he was able to stockpile. It is shocking, though, how easy it is to acquire deadly weapons. No one needs the kind of rifle he had.
LikeLike
gleaningthenuggets
July 27, 2012
I respect you very much, Charles, but I cannot agree with you on almost any point. This is not a one time occurrence, this is an alarming trend in our nation. Our children and young people are being murdered en masse time and time again – we cannot stick our heads in the sand and wish it away. We’ve got to do something. Here are more of my thoughts about it.
http://gleaningthenuggets.com/2012/07/27/boycottthedarknessbatman/.
But as always, your post is well written and I appreciate your thoughts 🙂 Best to you.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
Niki, I just read your excellent post and left a comment. But if we continue to deplore the state of society, more and more people will throw up their hands in resignation. That’s why I think it’s important to keep things in perspective. (Spoken like someone untouched directly by these horrific events, I know.) In all areas of life in which there are undesirable elements, we strive for perfection, and we become disheartened as soon as that perfection is broken. When it comes to crime and violence, we want to keep everyone safe. When it comes to air traffic control, we want zero crashes. When it comes to drugs, vaccines, and other medical treatments, we want no serious side effects. And of course, we tend to focus on the failures, no matter how few, because they most urgently demand our attention — like a single cavity in a mouthful of otherwise healthy teeth.
Knowing that perfection is impossible, what can we do to at least move closer to it? Will boycotting certain movies really help, or will that just lull us back into a sense of imagined security — setting us up for the next shock?
LikeLike
ZinalBhadra
July 27, 2012
Hi Charles,
While certain things are beyond our control, certain other things can definitely be brought under control.
If arms and weapons were not so easily available, occurrences of such incidences can be reduced.
But many of your points are valid
Regards
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
Zinal, it seems like an easy thing to have tighter control over the legal purchase of weapons, and that’s definitely a good idea. Guns are dangerous, and we shouldn’t treat them with a candy store mentality. But the more pressing need is to make it harder for criminals to get weapons. How do we do that?
LikeLike
~S
July 27, 2012
The world needs a strong & supportive family structure, carefree childhood, a judgement free society, & stern gun laws..ah!.wishful thinking!
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
Wishful thinking, yes, but worth wishing for. Although I’m not sure how a judgment-free society would work.
LikeLike
Christiana Pilgrim
July 27, 2012
So incredibly well said. Thank you for writing this with such a level tone.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
I’m not sure I got my points across clearly, but thank you for saying so, Christiana. I appreciate the feedback.
LikeLike
helen meikle's scribblefest
July 27, 2012
As the comments keep coming in here, the thing I find most disturbing is the sense I get of an almost philosophical acceptance that this is human nature.
No it’s not. This is human nature with guns at its disposal.
Yes, you’re horrified and you’re grieving. I get that. But why aren’t you enraged? Outraged? Why aren’t you out there jumping up and down and screaming like banshees, GET GUNS OUT OF OUR SOCIETY!
You’re right, there will always be people intent on killing their fellow humans for whatever reason, but why make it easy for them? Why facilitate a situation where guns become part of road rage, domestic violence, neighbourhood disputes and street brawls? Where kids can pick them up and think they’re toys? Where you need a gun to protect yourself from someone else’s? Where you arm yourself because you expect violence?
Human nature is fallible. Always has been, always will be. Evil human beings will always find a way to do evil. But how does that justify 300 million guns circulating in a population of 314 million? Doesn’t that shock you? Almost 100,000 people in the US are killed or injured by guns every year. How can you say shrug and say changing the gun laws won’t help?
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 30, 2012
Helen, I don’t know how many guns there are in the United States, and neither does anyone else. But for the sake of argument, let’s say the 300 million figure is correct. And let’s say roughly half of the people living in the US own all of those guns. If tomorrow, the other half starts jumping up and down, as you suggest, and screams its demands to get rid of the guns, then what? This is what I keep asking. The guns are already there, and in the case of the unregistered, illegal weapons, nobody knows where they are or how many.
Sooner or later, enough politicians will stand up to the gun lobby and succeed in passing much tougher laws. And that will seem like a reason for hope, although I don’t see what it will do. There are currently very strict laws about walking into schools and shopping malls and movie theaters and shooting people, but it still happens.
By the way, using the two figures — 300 million and 314 million — creates the false impression that almost all Americans have guns. They don’t. It seems to be that about 40% of US households contain at least one gun, and the average — among gun owners — is between 4 and 5 per household. Again, 40% of households is not the same as 40% of the population. Also, guns are present in much higher concentrations in certain geographic areas.
LikeLike
Dawn Whitehand
July 27, 2012
Ummm…i get your point on it getting coverage because of the number of people killed and injured… but… if you guys had better gun control laws – like most other western countries – the ‘number’ of those killed would not be so high. So while there are always those that don,t ‘learn’ the lesson they would not have access to high powered arms that shoot off multiple rounds…. a knife will not do this much damage in the hands of someone who has not ‘learned’ appropriate behaviour….
Gun control laws in the US were written into the constitution under a context which is now totally obsolete… it is now the NRA thT controls these laws through their lobbying power…
You guys need to change these laws for your own protection …. to defend them otherwise is sticking your head in the sand…
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
At the risk of repeating myself, Dawn, there are laws against murder, but that doesn’t stop someone intent on killing. The man who coordinated the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 used a truck filled with chemical fertilizer, and killed 168 people.
LikeLike
Dawn Whitehand
July 31, 2012
yes, some people are intent on killing, but there is no point making it easier for them…
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
I agree completely. I just worry that we’ll assume the problem is fixed. As long as people want to commit these terrible crimes, the problem will be with us.
LikeLike
Ashley
July 27, 2012
As always – you make me think till it hurts…literally. I do believe that the world has always been jacked-up, and there have always been random nut-jobs doing evil, but now we are so much more aware because of technology. I also agree that because this happened in an every-day situation (going to the movies) it hit home for folks – more so than if it had happened in “that far-away place, down there”. That night, my own kid grabbed her ID and her money as she headed out the door to see a movie. It could have been our own.
That makes it even more terrifying.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
That seems to be part of what terrorists do, Ashley: they target victims in a specific place, but they also instill — in everyone — the fear that the crime could have just as easily been anywhere else.
LikeLike
Mitch Mitchell
July 27, 2012
You want to know the truth Charles? Most men (I’m not going to include women here because I truthfully don’t believe it of them) have had thoughts about grabbing a gun and going out to shoot a bunch of people in moments of extreme anger. I certainly did when I was much younger, when I had a quick temper and just wanted to take it out on as many people as possible. The difference is that I didn’t do it, and most of us don’t do it because when all is said and done, we find that bit of a word called “control”.
We see it happening more often these days because (my opinion) parenting isn’t as much about teaching kids responsibility and courtesy and how to be an adult as much as it is teaching them that they’re all special and that they can do anything they want to and that they should feel free to express their feelings and opinions no matter what. And then they overlook the behavior of kids, just thinking they’re going through a “phase”. In our day, a phase meant “maybe my kid’s smoking”; not these days.
Of course this is general commentary. I have no idea what this guy’s problem is but it’s obvious that he went into a quick and sudden decline based on the few things we know. He wasn’t angry; he just “was”. There’s no accounting for that unfortunately.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
Mitch, I don’t think it’s possible to come up with one explanation — no matter how general — that explains all of the insanity that takes place these days. It’s probably true that a lot of people are never taught (or never learn) to be responsible for their own actions, and that they’re not the center of the universe. At the same time, some people just don’t have the ability to care about others, and I don’t know if that can necessarily be taught.
LikeLike
Catherine Kennedy
July 27, 2012
You’re right – a very tiny minority. thank you for reminding us to put this (horrible) event into perspective.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
Not that this kind of activity is even remotely acceptable, Catherine. But it doesn’t seem possible to prevent it completely.
LikeLike
Elyse
July 27, 2012
Charles,
I’m with the majority that believes that this is one of your most powerful piece. Do you have the answers? Did you solve our problem? Did you slay the dragon? No. I think that you made us look at ourselves. Each of us would at some point like to “kill” someone else — that jerk in traffic this morning or someone else who has impinged on us, irritated us to be more than just a mild tiff.
But most of us don’t. That’s the grown up in us. And you nailed the evolution of the kids who destroy the cars and the track.
There are a lot of issues in this and the dozens of other seemingly random shootings of innocent people. Craziness. Search for notoriety. Desire to act out fantasy.
But, as you know, Charles, I find guns inherently dangerous and the consequences of poor choices when guns are involved are frequently disastrous. And when our laws permit purchase of weapons that can kill hundreds in seconds, and when a portion of our population fervently believes it is their right to have as many guns and as much ammo as they like, well something is very, very wrong.
Banning assault weapons will not eliminate them. But if it eliminates one random shooting, well then, I am all for it.
Thanks, Charles
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
I’ve never understood the need or the justification for assault rifles. There are virtually no situations that require the ability to shoot large numbers of people. Burglars don’t show up in groups. Muggers generally like to work alone. These monstrous weapons were designed for war — another bizarre habit we can’t seem to break.
LikeLike
rangewriter
July 27, 2012
Charles, once again, you have articulated huge, deeply complex ideas with simple brilliance. We need your calm voice of logic to balance out the panic that overcomes us in the face of tragedies like the Colorado theater shooting.
“We’re searching for logic where there is none. ” This is so terribly true.
“But there are always a few among us who didn’t learn to focus on the potential harm. It isn’t that they weren’t taught. It’s that the lesson didn’t take.” This is a very important detail to remember. It is too easy to point fingers at parents, environment, schooling, video games…the list goes on. But in the final analysis, there is no logic to a crime like this, so it is illogical to point fingers at the source of the crime.
Your point about the “massacre” versus murder aspect is also important to remember. I always wonder, when we look at something like 9/11 or these mass killings…how does our angst resonate with those people who are victimized on a daily, even hourly basis by the threat of murder by war, murder by drug violence, murder by simply not caring enough to take care of each other?
This post oughta be highlighted in Freshly Pressed. Well done.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
Linda, I imagine there are a lot of people who celebrate a little every time we get a taste of it. But that does nothing to ease their situation, and just creates more conflict. About placing blame, this has nothing to do with upbringing or a decline in morality. This is an individual who made a horrendous decision. We tend to have trouble accepting that one person can do so much damage, and in response we concoct all kinds of explanations. But in the end, I think, there’s no explaining something like this.
LikeLike
zoetic * epics
July 27, 2012
Interesting perspective, Charles! You may be on to something! If I think about it, the senseless act and not caring about consequence of action or about hurting others is completely childish.
The only thing that doesn’t match immaturity is that children cry AFTER they are punished when they realize they did wrong AFTER the fact. The people who commit such crimes may be childish, but after the crime has been carried out, they completely lose all emotion and empathy. (Or probably have never had such feelings). They just don’t understand what they have done. That’s beyond being childishness. I guess we’re still doing research to figure what that is! Thanks for allowing us to think outside the box!
LikeLike
bronxboy55
July 31, 2012
I don’t know if it’s a matter of not understanding, or not caring. The criminal justice system seems to make a distinction between the two, and the sentences that are imposed reflect the difference. We’ll see what happens. I think this guy understands completely what he did, and just doesn’t care. But that’s an opinion based more on intuition than fact.
LikeLike
zoetic * epics
July 31, 2012
I concur! Those that harm anyone, clearly don’t care!
LikeLike
zoetic * epics
August 1, 2012
Off topic … and if it makes you feel better … I’ve got some cheesecake for you! – { FOOD FANTASIES } – Are these YOURS? – http://wp.me/p2dVcp-186
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 1, 2012
I’m vegetarian, so most of those things aren’t appealing. You did get my hopes up with the cheesecake — until I noticed the bacon. Is nothing sacred?
LikeLike
zoetic * epics
August 1, 2012
Hahaha … sorry to tease you then disgust you! 😉 I’ll keep that in mind!
LikeLike
earthriderjudyberman
July 27, 2012
My initial reaction was that we need to scale back glorifying violence in movies, TV and video games. But, in the long run, Charles, you are right. We’re looking for a logical explanation when there can’t be one … because it was the act of an irrational person.
It’d be wonderful if everyone would treat each other as they would like to be treated. Sad to say, some are just too into their own wants to see the hurt and pain they cause others.
Thanks for bringing some sanity to the discussion.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 1, 2012
I’m tired of the glorification of violence in almost every area of our lives, Judy, and that includes war. I don’t watch television, but it’s hard to find a movie that doesn’t include someone firing a gun. When I go to the History section in a bookstore, it’s filled with books about war and crime. Apparently, a lot of people are drawn to those subjects.
LikeLike
earthriderjudyberman
August 1, 2012
As someone who grew up on murder mysteries (cozies, they call the ones like Agatha Christie’s), and who was a former cops reporter … guilty as charged.
LikeLike
aviewfromthebrighterside
July 28, 2012
Well said! Thank you!
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 1, 2012
I appreciate the response, Diana. Thank you for taking the time.
LikeLike
Arindam
July 28, 2012
You said it so rightly Sir Charles. I too believe, the kind of terror that took place last week will no doubt be repeated. It may be at a different place. And there is no point in trying to find the answer to the question, “why?”. Terror is something, which is somehow now an integral part of our daily life. We have to live with the fear in us. Events life this occurs repeatedly in our country also, with the difference in number of people killed and the place where the event took place. Every time something like that happens, I see media tries to create awareness among people, highlighting this issue as if it’s a new released action thriller, politicians play dirty political game and we common men have nothing much to do, except to thank god that we, our relatives and our friends are safe. To be honest, the cost of life has become so cheap in our part of world that now we all are limiting ourselves to a very few number of people.
Few years earlier, when I saw a campaign, which was going on in media with the tag line “Save Tigers and Save Planet”. My home town is very near to a forest which is famous for it’s tiger reservation project, and few of my close friend work there as guards; so what I came to know from them was, it’s a reality, we need to save the tigers as their numbers are decreasing rapidly. But the only question that comes to my mind that, when we will realize the need of campaign “Save humans…. so that they can save the planet”. I wonder what we will do with this planet, if one day there will be no human or animals to live in it.
A very thought provoking and honest post Sir Charles. I remember, reading in your “about me” page that, “You enjoy most is writing essays about the struggles and frustrations of daily life, with a humorous outlook and a few are more serious, just because not everything is funny.”
And today is one of those days, where you wrote about an issue, where nothing is actually funny.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
There’s certainly nothing funny about people killing each other for no reason, Arindam. I’m sorry to know that it’s happening in your country, too. I think rather than having no humans on the planet, our numbers will continue to increase — and so will the frequency of these terrible incidents.
LikeLike
Anonymous
July 30, 2012
I have to disagree with one commenter. Killing each other IS human nature. Strip away the clothes and the electronic gadgets, and we are still very much an animal that competes for resources, for mates, for status. In most cases we use our minds to manipulate rather than murder, but the point is, we STILL DO. We always will. The theater murderer chose the easy way to get attention. He chose the easy way to make an impact on society. Take away the guns and he would have used something else.
He wasn’t interested in girls, or being popular, or rich, or having a nice car. He wanted STATUS, and now he has it. I seriously believe that he was smart enough to manfacture an emotional or mental illness, make it appear as if he’s mentally ill, so he can escape prison on a ‘not guilty by reason of insanity.”. He was pretty clever.
I feel so sorry for people who are truly ‘mentally ill.’ They almost always hurt no one but themselves. Every time some monster is let off on a mentally ill plea, I cringe, because I’m betting they aren’t. I’m certain Holme’s will cop a mentally ill plea, because that’s just a way to get away with murder and not have to pay the price for it.
It’s not just our society, it is human society as a whole. Look at what’s going on in the middle east, Arabs slaughtering Arabs because one is not member of the other’s religious sect. Look what Hitler did, to millions of Jews, Gypsies, and other so called ‘untermenschen’…first he demonized them, then, (read it out loud) WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF HIS COUNTRYMEN, he, murdered them.
We all have it in us to kill. It is morals, it is a conscience, that keeps us from doing so. THAT is what the difference is, and restricting access to guns isn’t going to change things. Monsters will always find a way to kill us.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
I agree with much of what you say. But some situations are more complex than others, and in the case of ruthless dictators, much of the population is just trying to survive. I don’t know how much average German citizens knew about Hitler’s activities — or what they could have done. It’s possible that many of them tried to take action, and were killed for their efforts. We may never know.
LikeLike
Damyanti
August 1, 2012
Charles, the world needs more folks like you, and the other folks who’ve written on here; less folks like that psycho. In short, more sane people.
Also, less assault rifles– but I understand saying that would get me into trouble with most Americans. To my mind, better gun control would limit these instances– a psycho with a knife is not nearly as dangerous as one with a gun that can fire so many rounds per minute.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
Damyanti, I’m not so sure most Americans are crazy about guns. Just as a few armed people can terrorize a large number, I think the gun lovers are more vocal and have more than their share of influence.
LikeLike
Val
August 2, 2012
I think it’s as impossible to know what was going through the killer’s mind than it is to know what is going through anyone else’s mind. You say this, Charles: “We’re searching for logic where there is none. Maybe we’re dealing with children in grown-up bodies.” I agree with you on the first point, I don’t think there is any logic to be found in what happened at all. At least not from our point of view. We can’t know how he was brought up, we can’t know what was going on in his life. We can’t know if he had chemical imbalances before he did this, or if something happened to push him over the edge.
As for dealing with children in grown up bodies… up to a point you might be right. But at what point did the growth stop, is what I wonder.
Looking at the video and photos of him in court, I’d say he’s been drugged. I’ve seen those weird eyes before and that odd expression too in some of my late father’s patients who had schitzophrenia (dad wasn’t a psychiatrist but had more than his fair share of disturbed patients in his practice), and that behaviour in court may have been part of his condition – whatever condition he has – but I think there’s more to it than that.
What worries me far more than what happened is that it takes attention away from all the other dreadful things that are happening in our world. Tragic though it was for the families of the victims and everyone else, it is still only one incident. There are wars going on all over the world, man-made and natural disasters and focussing ones attention on just one thing is never good.
Good on you for breaking up your more humorous posts to write this. It must have been difficult even though I know you’re a thinker and that you probably couldn’t exist in this world without mulling things over.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
I’ve seen the photos, too, and I still think the courtroom behavior is part of his plan to somehow get away with this. But no matter what, people will keep trying to explain these horrible events, because that’s what humans do — we look for reasons that will help us better anticipate similar situations. At the very least, we want to convince ourselves that we understand why these things happen, even if we can’t prevent them.
LikeLike
Jennie Upside Down
August 2, 2012
What I’ve learned since entering into law enforcement in 2002. People are evil. There are good people yes. I have gotten over the shock and awe of what a human being can do to another human being.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
I think we like to believe that the human race is on this upward path toward being more enlightened and civilized. But it doesn’t take too many to pull us right back down.
Jennie, I just noticed the Law Enforcement tag on your blog. I definitely want to spend some time reading more of what you’ve written.
LikeLike
Yulia
August 2, 2012
” All we can do is pay closer attention, and treat each other with kindness and compassion. And continue to act like grown-ups. The world can always use a little more of that.”
I totally agree with your statement, Charles.. Compassion is what people need this days.. When people have compassion, it will be hard for them to hurt others.
Thank you for writing this, Charles 🙂
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 4, 2012
Unfortunately, our compassion sometimes appears only after an incident like this one. It’s impossible to know if any of these shootings could have been prevented. I guess all we can do is follow your advice, Yulia, and hope it makes a difference.
LikeLike
Sandra Parsons
August 7, 2012
I only now got around to reading this excellent post and I have to agree: sometimes there are no explanations.
I am a biologist and from where I stand, human nature certainly has this violent, wanting-to-dominate streak to it. This is where society with its rules of what is acceptable behaviour and what not kicks in. Which is necessary to facilitate the living together of many individuals without harming any one. Because despite my general belief in the good in people, moral compasses can get out of whack too easily for too many reasons (most of them highly emotional, another one of these human traits).
Unfortunately I concur, stricter gun laws wouldn’t prevent this kind of occurrence as the example of Germany shows. We have so much less guns per capita than the US, yet we do get these random shootings in schools or elsewhere and it shocks the nation every time.
So what can be done? I have no answer, only the suggestion to maybe support families and communities in order to strenghten the infrastructures that help form healthy, caring, respectful minds. Not that this would completely prevent such things from happening but perhaps make them less frequent…
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 7, 2012
Your phrase wanting-to-dominate jumped out at me, Sandra. I think that trait is present in just about every animal species on Earth. It’s probably been the most influential factor in human history — is there a country anywhere that wasn’t conquered by newcomers at some point? Most of us manage to control this drive to dominate, partly because we understand that we benefit from things like cooperation, generosity, and other civil behaviors. But the prevalence of weapons indicates that the moral compass you mention is never too far from being out of whack.
LikeLike
mollvi
August 9, 2012
Very thoughtful and balanced.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 10, 2012
Thank you, mollvi. I appreciate the feedback.
LikeLike
Rayme Wells @ A Clean Surface
August 13, 2012
I believe one simple but very important thing step the average person can take to help prevent interpersonal and societal violence is to learn practical strategies for coping with strong negative emotions and/or stressful events, and to help others to learn such strategies.
Children need the most help with this, and some adults, as you illustrate, are still having tantrums — on a much larger and more violent scale.
I think of the man who can’t stand the idea of losing his woman so he kills her and himself rather than live without her…he doesn’t know how to process his own negative feelings and move forward. He wants to make the feelings stop, quickly and permanently and he succeeds in doing so…in a very selfish, irrational and deeply harmful manner.
LikeLike
bronxboy55
August 14, 2012
I always wonder about the people who murder their own children and then kill themselves. If you want to end your own life, that’s tragic enough. But why the kids? Your approach would help. If only we’d take the time to do things like that, rather than treat everything with a drug — or ignore it completely until it’s too late.
LikeLike
Max's Scout Services & Communications, LLC
October 9, 2014
Reblogged this on Colorado's Western Slope The Dailey Sun and commented:
This author provides good insight (2 years ago). It took them years, but the City of Aurora released results of a contracted analysis today (October 2014).
LikeLike